[Addressed to 41 Brimmer Street, Boston, Mass.]

T. S.Eliot
EmilyHale
TS Princeton C1294
Faber & Faber Ltd
22 Russell Square
London W.C.1
[Letterhead]
17 September 1930
Dear Emily,1

I must warn you that the Taupin bookTaupin, RenéThe Influence of French Symbolism on Modern American Poetry;a1 is only about a certain current of modern poetry; also that Flint2 feels strongly – more strongly than I do – that Taupin is too much under the influence of Ezra PoundPound, Ezra;a13 – and heFlint, Frank Stuart ('F. S.');a1 tells me that he has accordingly made a few marginal notes for your benefit.4 No book on contemporary verse is – or for that matter, can be – comprehensive and fair all round: they are usually written by people who are hopelessly old-fashioned, or else who have rather narrow prejudices.

It is rather difficult to talk about the ‘poetry’ of D. H. LawrenceLawrence, David Herbert ('D. H.')his singularity as poet;a1, although he has to be reckoned with in case anybody asks a question.5 I mean that it is not technically very important, and it is much more related to his other work than it is to other people’s poetry. AnotherCampbell, Roycommended as poet;a1 (living) poet who ought to be mentioned is Roy Campbell, whose last book you will receive in Boston: I don’t think it is anything that will affect the future, and find it too wordy for my own taste; but it is good of its kind, and has a flamboyant vigour which is uncommon.6 I am afraid that I find the SitwellsSitwells, theas poets and people;a17 hopelessly dull, although they are very nice people.

Yours in haste,
T. S. E.

1.EHtravels, trips and plansEH's 1930 trip to England;a1;a1n was staying c/o Mrs R. H. Gretton, ‘Calendar’s’, BurfordEnglandBurford, Oxfordshire;d4EH staying in;a1, near Oxford.

2.F. S. FlintFlint, Frank Stuart ('F. S.') (1885–1960), English poet and translator: see Biographical Register.

3.Ezra PoundPound, Ezra (1885–1972), American poet and critic: see Biographical Register.

4.RenéTaupin, René Taupin (1905–81), French translator and critic who moved in the 1920s to the USA, where he lectured in Romance Languages at Columbia University, New York. A friend of the poet Louis Zukofsky [?] and correspondent of Ezra Pound, he was author of L’Influence du symbolisme français sur la poésie américaine, de 1910 à 1920 (1929) – The Influence of French Symbolism on Modern American Poetry (rev. edn 1981) – the work to which TSE refers in these remarks. See TSE’s letter to Taupin, 12 Apr. 1928.

5.D. H. Lawrence (1885–1930), English novelist, short story writer, poet, essayist and travel writer. His novels include Sons and Lovers (1913), The Rainbow (1915), Women in Love (1920) and Lady Chatterley's Lover (1928). Poetry includes Birds, Beasts and Flowers (1923), Pansies (1929) and Nettles (1930). The Triumph of the Machine appeared in the ‘Ariel’ series (F&F, 1930). Non-fiction includes Psychoanalysis and the Unconscious (1921), Studies in Classic American Literature (1923), A Propos of Lady Chatterley’s Lover (1929); and writings on travel include Twilight in Italy and Other Essays (1916) and Mornings in Mexico and Other Essays (1927). Biographical studies include Brenda Maddox, The Married Man: A Life of D. H. Lawrence (1994); John Worthen, D. H. Lawrence: The Life of an Outsider (2005); and Frances Wilson, Burning Man: The Ascent of D. H. Lawrence (2021).

6.RoyCampbell, Roy Campbell (1901–57), South African-born poet, satirist and translator, arrived in England in 1918 and was taken up by the composer William Walton and the Sitwells, and by Wyndham Lewis. He made his name with the long poem Flaming Terrapin (1924). Later poetry includes Adamastor (1930) – the volume to which TSE refers in this letter – The Georgiad (1931) and Talking Bronco (1946). See Peter F. Alexander, Roy Campbell: A Critical Biography (1982).

In a letter to the American publisher Henry Regnery, 26 Dec. 1953, TSE volunteered this endorsement for the US edition of Campbell’s Poems: ‘I am astonished that no collection of Roy Campbell’s poems should have hitherto been published in the United States, since he has been for many years one of the most conspicuous figures in English poetry in my time. His work is unclassifiable: it cannot be defined in terms of any movement. But the best of his work will surely be included in whatever assemblage of the poetical remains of our time, later generations will consider of permanent worth.’

7.The Sitwell siblings. For Edith, see Biographical Register; for Osbert, see letter of 3 July 1931; for Sacheverell, see letter of 9 July 1931 (both below).

Campbell, Roy, commended as poet, literary fracas surrounding Talking Bronco,

6.RoyCampbell, Roy Campbell (1901–57), South African-born poet, satirist and translator, arrived in England in 1918 and was taken up by the composer William Walton and the Sitwells, and by Wyndham Lewis. He made his name with the long poem Flaming Terrapin (1924). Later poetry includes Adamastor (1930) – the volume to which TSE refers in this letter – The Georgiad (1931) and Talking Bronco (1946). See Peter F. Alexander, Roy Campbell: A Critical Biography (1982).

England, TSE as transatlantic cultural conduit for, discomforts of its larger houses, and Henry James, at times unreal, TSE's patriotic homesickness for, which is not a repudiation of America, TSE's want of relations in, encourages superiority in Americans familiar with, reposeful, natural ally of France, compared to Wales, much more intimate with Europe than America, TSE on his 'exile' in, undone by 'Dividend morality', in wartime, war binds TSE to, post-war, post-war privations, the English, initially strange to TSE, contortions of upward mobility, comparatively rooted as a people, TSE more comfortable distinguishing, the two kinds of duke, TSE's vision of wealthy provincials, its Tories, more blunt than Americans, as congregants, considered racially superior, a relief from the Scottish, don't talk in poetry, compared to the Irish, English countryside, around Hindhead, distinguished, the West Country, compared to New England's, fen country, in primrose season, the English weather, cursed by Joyce, suits mistiness, preferred to America's, distinguished for America's by repose, relaxes TSE, not rainy enough, English traditions, Derby Day, Order of Merit, shooting, Varsity Cricket Match, TSE's dislike of talking cricket, rugby match enthralls, the death of George V, knighthood, the English language, Adlestrop, Gloucestershire, visited by EH and TSE, Amberley, West Sussex, ruined castle at, Arundel, West Sussex, TSE's guide to, Bath, Somerset, TSE 'ravished' by, EH visits, Bemerton, Wiltshire, visited on Herbert pilgrimage, Blockley, Gloucestershire, tea at the Crown, Bosham, West Sussex, EH introduced to, Bridport, Dorset, Tandys settled near, Burford, Oxfordshire, EH staying in, too hallowed to revisit, Burnt Norton, Gloucestershire, TSE remembers visiting, and the Cotswolds, its imagined fate, Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, less oppressive than Oxford, TSE's vision of life in, possible refuge during Blitz, Charlbury, Oxfordshire, visited by EH and TSE, Chester, 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visited by Uncle Chris and Abby, TSE conceives desire to visit, reasons for visiting, described, visited again, and the Shamley Cokers, now within Father Underhill's diocese, photographs of, Finchampstead, Berkshire, visited by TSE and EH, specifically the Queen's Head, Framlingham, Suffolk, visited, Garsington, Oxfordshire, recalled, Glastonbury, Somerset, Gloucester, Gloucestershire, Gloucestershire, highly civilised, its beautiful edge, its countryside associated with EH, TSE at home in, its domestic architecture, Hadsleigh, Suffolk, visited, Hampshire, journey through, TSE's New Forest holiday, Hereford, highly civilised, Hull, Yorkshire, and 'Literature and the Modern World', Ilfracombe, Devon, and the Field Marshal, hideous, Knole Park, Kent, Lavenham, Suffolk, visited, Leeds, Yorkshire, TSE lectures in, touring Murder opens in, the Dobrées visited in, home to EVE's family, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, TSE's visit to, especially the Bishop's Palace, Lincolnshire, arouses TSE's curiosity, unknown to EH, Lingfield, Surrey, Little Gidding, Cambridgeshire, TSE's long-intended expedition to, London, in TSE's experience, TSE's isolation within, affords solitude and anonymity, contrasted to country life, its fogs, socially freer than Boston and Paris, eternally misty, its lionhunters, rain preferable in, more 'home' to TSE than America, socially more legible than Boston, its society compared to Boston's, TSE's desire to live among cockneys, South Kensington too respectable, Clerkenwell, Camberwell, Blackheath, Greenwich scouted for lodging, its comparatively vigorous religious life, Camberwell lodging sought, Clerkenwell lodging sought, and music-hall nostalgia, abandoned by society in August, the varieties of cockney, TSE's East End sojourn, South Kensington grows on TSE, prepares for Silver Jubilee, South Kensington street names, Dulwich hallowed in memory, so too Greenwich, during 1937 Coronation, preparing for war, Dulwich revisited with family, in wartime, TSE as air-raid warden in, Long Melford, Suffolk, Lowestoft, Suffolk, Lyme Regis, Dorset, with the Morleys, Marlborough, Wiltshire, scene of a happy drink, Needham Market, Suffolk, Newcastle, Northumberland, TSE's visit to, Norfolk, appeals to TSE, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, dreary, Nottinghamshire, described for EH, Oxford, Oxfordshire, as recollected by TSE, past and present, EH takes lodgings in, haunted for TSE, in July, compared to Cambridge, Peacehaven, Sussex, amazing sermon preached in, Penrith, TSE's visit to, Rochester, as Dickens described, Salisbury, Wiltshire, in the Richmonds' company, Shamley Green, Surrey, TSE's ARP work in, its post office, Pilgrim Players due at, Somerset, highly civilised, TSE at home in, Southwold, Suffolk, TSE visits with family, Stanton, Gloucestershire, on TSE and EH's walk, Stanway, Gloucestershire, on EH and TSE's walk, Suffolk, TSE visits with family, Surrey, Morley finds TSE lodging in, evening bitter at the Royal Oak, TSE misses, as it must have been, Sussex, commended to EH, TSE walking Stane Street and downs, EH remembers, Walberswick, Suffolk, Wells, Somerset, TSE on visiting, Whipsnade, Bedfordshire, EH and TSE visit, Whitchurch Canonicorum, Dorset, delightful name, Wiltshire, highly civilised, TSE at home in, Winchelsea, East Sussex, visited, Winchester, TSE on, Wisbech, Lincolnshire, TSE on visiting, Worcestershire, TSE feels at home in, Yeovil, Somerset, visited en route to East Coker, York, TSE's glimpse of, Yorkshire,
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Flint, Frank Stuart ('F. S.'), and Hulme, in Criterion inner-circle, sketched for EH, at Monro's funeral, and Dobrée give TSE farewell lunch, accompanies TSE to music hall,

2.F. S. FlintFlint, Frank Stuart ('F. S.') (1885–1960), English poet and translator: see Biographical Register.

Lawrence, David Herbert ('D. H.'), his singularity as poet, piece of faux-Eliotana concerning, as writer of letters, TSE appreciates loneliness of, deranges TSE, singled out Bain's 'Disraeli' for praise, on The Criterion, represented better in Revelation, David, 'The Prussian Officer',
Pound, Ezra, within Hulme's circle, at The Egoist, indebted to Harriet Weaver, epistolary style, on President Lowell, TSE recites for Boston audience, distinguished from Joyce and Lawrence, TSE's reasons for disliking, attacks After Strange Gods, as correspondent, needs pacification, and TSE's possible visit to Rapallo, recommended to NEW editorial committee, anecdotalised by Jane Heap, of TSE and David Jones's generation, his strange gift to Joyce recalled, delicacies of his ego, Morley halves burden of, lacks religion, his letters from Italy censored, one of TSE's 'group', indicted for treason, TSE on his indictment, his legal situation, correspondence between TSE and Bernard Shaw concerning, visited by TSE in Washington, defended by TSE in Poetry, Osbert Sitwell on, his treatment in hospital protested, his insanity, TSE's BBC broadcast on, The Pisan Cantos, TSE writes introduction for, TSE chairs evening devoted to, further efforts on behalf of, Hugh Selwyn Mauberley, The Literary Essays of Ezra Pound, 'The Seafarer',
see also Pounds, the

3.Ezra PoundPound, Ezra (1885–1972), American poet and critic: see Biographical Register.

Sitwells, the, as poets and people, their poetic limitations, the Eliots dine with, rated at Aeolian Hall reading,
Taupin, René, The Influence of French Symbolism on Modern American Poetry,

4.RenéTaupin, René Taupin (1905–81), French translator and critic who moved in the 1920s to the USA, where he lectured in Romance Languages at Columbia University, New York. A friend of the poet Louis Zukofsky [?] and correspondent of Ezra Pound, he was author of L’Influence du symbolisme français sur la poésie américaine, de 1910 à 1920 (1929) – The Influence of French Symbolism on Modern American Poetry (rev. edn 1981) – the work to which TSE refers in these remarks. See TSE’s letter to Taupin, 12 Apr. 1928.

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